Ray
Great to see you bro. Hope life is treating you well.
i am acting as an in-between for a good friend who is not part of this site.
his family were a century involved in the wtbts in the lower bc mainland; not to mention nw washington state.. he is no longer a member of the jw's.
we're great friends; i knew him 25 years ago, long before i discovered this site (love it simon: yes, still all those years later).. anyways, he wants to get rid of bound volumes from approximately from the years: 1940 - until - 2000.. he asked me to intervene.
Ray
Great to see you bro. Hope life is treating you well.
one of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.
i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).
looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.
as an interpreter if this topic came up it was never assigned to a female to interpret. And when the men did, they spelled it out instead of signing it..
one of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.
i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).
looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.
I knew right away this was going to get out of hand
But I am laughing too hard to lock it.
...and they're clearly in the mood for pushing it on youtube.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lerx3gkthxk.
what is it with all these random youtube channels, each showing polished and highly-produced videos.
"No other magazine comes close"
Isn't "The Plain Truth" being published anymore?
hmmm seems like it is and they will either send a print copy or email one to you. - no sales pitchman at your door
this was one of the last presentations i took in.
very powerful stuff.. icsa 2012 conference listening to the still small voice: reclaiming the self after leaving religious totalistic groups.
most people go through a stage in late adolescence or early adulthood where they ask this question of themselves.
Painted
Don't get discouraged. It is never too late to find out who you are, what kind of a person you are -- or want to be.
Learn for the pure pleasure of learning. Most people recently out of the JWs (or any repressive group) discover they have an insatiable desire to learn. They read incessantly. They watch documentaries for the sake of learning new things about the world around them - other than the sound bites the Awake! provided. They try new things. They get involved with sports (often through their kids). They begin to go to museums or plays. They get involved in community events. The opportunities are out there for just about everything. I recently joined a Meetup group for cultural events in my community. I cannot believe the wide range of things they list for people to attend. Most are free but some you have to pay or donate something to, even food for the local food banks. Get a dog if you like them. Great way to meet new people it seems.
It is ok to try something and then say "That's not for me." But in the process you will have learned something new about yourself.
Our limitations, while not endless, are only as big as we make them. At 40 yrs old I took up cycling. I got to the point where I was riding 100 km 2-3 times a week. I loved it and want to get back into it. Health has kept me away for a few years but at 60 I want to start cycling again. When I moved to where I am now we had a fellow in his 90s out cycling every day. It is never too late unless you keep putting it off.
Heaven was right about. Become proactive in your life. You will feel better, emotionally and physically.
I set myself a goal of learning one new thing a year. One big project. This year is to get cycling again. Last year it was jewelry making. I have no idea what it will be next year but I know I will learn more about who I am, my likes and dislikes, my talents (or lack of) for certain things. One year was furniture refinishing, then upholstery. I built a desk and a bookshelf. I learned to build my own computer. The list is varied and interesting to me.
All thse thiungs you put off - pick one and do it now. Be reasonable within your limits. Don't try to run a marathon if you have trouble running around the block. But you can build yourself up to it.
I can't think of anything worse than growing up to be like my mother who has spent the last 50 years waiting and waiting and waiting.
terry was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
he has a severe case of cellulites which has affected his neck glands.
his face and neck are very swollen.
Send him my best wishes and please keep us informed
wow what a surprise.
He was the one to instigate the arrests in the first place. it was all contrived so he could sue sue sue and rake in some publicity and a lot of money too.
this was one of the last presentations i took in.
very powerful stuff.. icsa 2012 conference listening to the still small voice: reclaiming the self after leaving religious totalistic groups.
most people go through a stage in late adolescence or early adulthood where they ask this question of themselves.
Heaven
I am hearing that "do-nothing" comment about JWs more and more often. Theirs is a life not lived for today but rather for a future that might come. . . soon.
It was something I struggled with and used a wide variety of excuses to explain the reasons I had for learning things. Everything had to have a reason for it. Then it was to have skills to use after Armageddon. After all, someone had to know how to can food and make clothing. Most people haven't got a clue how to do those things. So I learned basic survival skills.
Now I can do things just because I want to learn something new. There doesn't have to be a reason for the "Why do you want to do that?" question. Maybe I will realize I don't like it but at least I tried.
I think I saw somewhere that someone had calculated that it takes 11 years of preachign to make 1 new JW. What a tremendous waste of time and energy.
i think personally, the judge was wanting to mainly see how the watchtower society would answer them.
he said he would have a decision by the 25th august.
so needless to say, everyone is nervously waiting for the day he decides.
Will be sending positive thoughts for her and all concerned
(also fixed your link - in future just remember to add a space at the end of the link)
this was one of the last presentations i took in.
very powerful stuff.. icsa 2012 conference listening to the still small voice: reclaiming the self after leaving religious totalistic groups.
most people go through a stage in late adolescence or early adulthood where they ask this question of themselves.
Other than the first day's workshop (that went on all day) I probably took the most notes on this one.
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